"The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123" (mattp123)
01/10/2014 at 10:57 • Filed to: None
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"The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123" (mattp123)
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How will they take a $375k car and "cost engineer" it down to a price (60-70% less) that can compete with GTRs, Porsches, and Corvettes without drastically changing the character of the LFA?
Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
> The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
01/10/2014 at 10:59 |
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Give it a fiberglass body more normal brakes, an inline or flat 6 turbo.
With a normal Manual trans.
Lessen the electronics.
It is doable, might not happen. Could be a longer wheelbase FRS base.
anothermiatafanboy
> The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
01/10/2014 at 11:00 |
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Agreed, and that's fine. The LFA did what it needed to, bringing major attention and some sporting cred to the Lexus brand. But it aint no Supra. Man is there something about that generation Supra that just gets me all hot and bothered!
RacecaR
> The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
01/10/2014 at 11:00 |
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Make it out of sheet metal and plastics instead of carbon fiber?
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The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
> Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
01/10/2014 at 11:04 |
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At which point it is far from an LFA. Exactly my point. Does Toyota already have an inline or flat 6 to work with? The ISf engine might make more sense.
Bullitt417
> The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
01/10/2014 at 11:05 |
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LFA-based does not have imply use of the same chassis. While I agree stating it that way is misleading, it still could imply a "lessons learned" concept A lot of the technology, not necessarily the Carbon Fiber, can be brought over. Besides, Toyota already invested tons into the equipment and technology and then sold it at a loss. It would be hard to believe they would do that and then never touch the technology again. I look at it this way. At one point the LF-A during development had an Aluminum body. At another point it was switch to Carbon Fiber (I think that was how it went..). The LFA is not a car, it is a feasibility study. Saying the Supra could be LFA based, could be the next phase of the LFA study.
Formula4speed
> The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
01/10/2014 at 11:06 |
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The people who think it could be cost engineered down to compete in that segment are the people who thought it was overpriced to begin with are the people who have no idea how a car is designed or developed. The next challenger has a higher chance of being viper based than the supra does of being LFA based.
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Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
> The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
01/10/2014 at 11:13 |
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They have the Subaru Engines to mess with.
And they can easily do another inline six.
Is the ISf the v8?
Lime - Light
> Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
01/10/2014 at 11:25 |
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It is NOT doable. The manufacture of this car's frame and body is dependent entirely on a very costly carbon fiber process that Toyota invented to produce the LFA. You can't just "substitute" a different material in there. They didn't bolt on some seibon cf body panels to make it light, the car is constructed of it.
SPNKiX
> RacecaR
01/10/2014 at 11:31 |
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Yeah, it might not be exactly the same as the LFA, but a sheet metal version would still be amazing.
RazoE
> The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
01/10/2014 at 11:55 |
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Let's face it, it'll be based on the RC 350. It'll be a bit wider and a little lower, but basically, there you have it.
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The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
> Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
01/10/2014 at 12:12 |
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"Mess with" and "do another" implies a lot of engineering costs.
Yep, it's a 5 liter 416 hp V8. Good for 4.6 0-60 in the 3800 pound ISf. Hypothetically speaking, I think with some minor tweaks to the computer, intake and exhaust, it could provide respectable numbers on par with GTRs, Porsches and Corvettes. If they get it to produce around 475hp in a 3500 pound car.
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The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
> RacecaR
01/10/2014 at 12:18 |
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You'll save some money at the cost of weight, rigidity and sense of quality. AKA some of the high points of the LFA. Also as Lime - Light said, the whole car was designed with carbon fiber in mind. You can't just swap materials that easily.
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Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT
> The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
01/10/2014 at 15:02 |
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That would be an impressive car....
But if they take Subaru's flat 6 and turbo it it would be a good plant I think